EP#389 | GUEST | Kawa Mawlayee on the CIA, Islam & 9/11, Bin Laden & The Proxy War Playbook

📄 Episode Overview

In Episode #389, Ray sits down with former Green Beret and political commentator Kawa Mawlayee for a raw, unfiltered deep dive into America's foreign policy entanglements, the origins of the Taliban, and the murky backstory of Osama bin Laden. From Kawa's gripping firsthand account of his time in Iraq as a 22-year-old Muslim Marine, to dissecting CIA operations and proxy wars in the Middle East and Africa, this episode rips the veil off decades of political narratives. Kawa sheds light on the weaponization of religion, the real story behind October 7th, and why Gen Z is asking the right questions. If you've ever questioned the official story about 9/11, the War on Terror, or why some groups never seem to attack certain targets, this episode connects the dots. Unapologetically bold and brutally honest.

🌟 Key Takeaways

  • The Taliban was created by the CIA as a mediator group post-Soviet occupation

  • Osama bin Laden was once a CIA asset who brought money and influence to the Mujahideen

  • U.S. foreign policy repeatedly uses proxies to create and control conflict zones

🧠 Summary

This episode pulls no punches. Kawa Mawlayee, a former Marine and Green Beret, recounts his journey from Kabul to Nebraska, and eventually into combat zones across Iraq and Afghanistan. As a Muslim serving in the U.S. military, Kawa faced not only external warfare but an intense internal conflict—reconciling his faith with the missions he carried out. His firsthand story of a 300-man firefight in Iraq is sobering and visceral.

The conversation then zooms out to the geopolitical stage. Kawa explains how the Taliban was born out of CIA operations post-USSR withdrawal, and how Osama bin Laden's role evolved from ally to enemy. He lays bare the American playbook: fund, train, and later vilify. From Libya to Nigeria, Sudan to Palestine, it's the same script—find a proxy, destabilize, extract resources, and move on.

Ray and Kawa also dissect the propaganda machine and how young people, especially Gen Z, are peeling back the curtain on narratives surrounding Israel, 9/11, and American imperialism. The death of Charlie Kirk and the suspicious circumstances surrounding it also get examined, with Kawa giving his theory on what really happened.

This episode is not for the faint of heart. It's a call to think critically, question everything, and understand how power manipulates perception.

🔎 Practical Tips

  • Don't accept official narratives at face value—research open-source intelligence

  • Recognize patterns in U.S. foreign intervention and proxy use

  • Bridge faith and critical thinking when confronting moral dilemmas

📚 Research Spotlight

Operation Northwoods, a declassified DoD plan proposing false-flag attacks on Americans to justify war with Cuba. Read more here

❓ FAQ

Q: Did the CIA actually create the Taliban?
A: Yes, they created it as a mediator group post-Soviet withdrawal. It later took sides and became what we now know as the Taliban.

Q: Was Osama bin Laden connected to the CIA?
A: Yes, during the Soviet-Afghan war, he was a U.S. asset helping fund and coordinate Mujahideen forces.

Q: Why don't ISIS or Al-Qaeda attack Israel?
A: According to Kawa, these groups function more as proxies for geopolitical disruption rather than ideological actors targeting actual enemies.

Q: Was Kawa conflicted as a Muslim fighting in Muslim countries?
A: Absolutely. He details the moral struggle and how he came to terms with it by focusing on protecting his fellow soldiers.

Q: Why are Gen Z voices important in this conversation?
A: They're unfiltered, bold, and less indoctrinated by legacy media, helping to surface hard questions and inconvenient truths.

⏱️ Chapters & Timestamps

  • 00:00 – Opening & Guest Intro

  • 03:15 – From Kabul to Nebraska: Kawa's Backstory

  • 09:00 – The Mujahideen, CIA, and Birth of the Taliban

  • 17:45 – Bin Laden: Asset or Enemy?

  • 26:00 – Combat in Iraq: A 300-Man Firefight

  • 34:30 – The Internal Conflict: Muslim vs Marine

  • 41:00 – Weaponizing Religion and Media

  • 49:15 – The Charlie Kirk Theory

  • 57:00 – Why Gen Z Might Save Us All

🧱 Final Thought

If history is written by the victors, this episode is a rebellion from the footnotes.

🌍 External Resources

  • Operation Northwoods Declassified Document

  • Confessions of an Economic Hitman - John Perkins

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