Guest #62 | JSlay USA. Authenticity.

The split in American Christianity is real — and it’s only getting deeper. In this raw and relentless conversation, Jeremy Slayden (JSlayUSA) joins Ray Doustdar to dissect the theological brainwashing, Zionist propaganda, and historical deception that’s kept generations of evangelical Christians in the dark about who they’re really supporting — and why.

🎙️ The Christian Zionism Dilemma | JSlayUSA on Dispensationalism, Deception & Divides

📄 Episode Overview

In Episode #62, Ray is joined again by one of the most talked-about guests in DSD history: Jeremy Slayden, known as JSlayUSA. What begins as a respectful discussion about differences in theology quickly morphs into a hard-hitting exposé on the real roots of Christian Zionism, the fallout from dispensationalist teaching, and the long-overdue awakening happening in churches across America.

Slayden goes deep on the spiritual blindspots of the evangelical movement, the manipulation of American support for Israel, and how pastors, politicians, and platforms alike are gaslighting their congregations and viewers. From the USS Liberty cover-up to Schofield's influence, from 9/11 to October 7th, this episode exposes what others are too afraid to say out loud.

🎯 Key Takeaways

  • Most evangelical pastors genuinely believe their pro-Israel theology, but few have examined its roots

  • Dispensationalism, born in the 1800s, reshaped American Christianity into a Zionist stronghold

  • Questioning Israel or Zionism gets you labeled anti-Semitic — even in Christian circles

  • October 7th was a turning point that forced many to confront long-held biases

  • Christian leaders must choose between truth and comfort, courage and conformity

🧠 Summary

Ray opens by recognizing Jeremy Slayden as one of the most mentioned names on the podcast, second only to Greg Stoker. The episode quickly dives into the tension between tradition and truth within American evangelicalism. Slayden explains how his own views evolved after deeply researching events like the USS Liberty attack and 9/11, eventually realizing that the pro-Israel narrative he’d grown up with was based more on indoctrination than investigation.

Together, they break down the theological origins of Christian Zionism — particularly dispensationalism, a 19th-century framework popularized by John Nelson Darby and further spread by the Schofield Reference Bible. Slayden argues this theology created a parallel system where Jews are seen as God's earthly people and Christians as His heavenly people — a belief system now embedded into mainstream Christian thought, often without question.

The conversation turns to the manipulation of evangelical support by Zionist interests, especially after major geopolitical events. Slayden likens the COVID-era medical censorship to spiritual censorship in the church, where questioning Israel is treated as heresy. Ray pushes him on whether pastors are knowingly complicit or just misled. The answer? Both.

🔎 Practical Tips

  • Read scripture without the filter of Schofield or dispensationalist notes

  • Study the USS Liberty incident and 9/11 with fresh eyes

  • Question teachings that elevate any nation or ethnicity above others

  • Discuss difficult truths in your faith community without fear

  • Follow voices willing to lose platform for principle

📚 Research Spotlight

The Schofield Reference Bible (first published in 1909) helped cement dispensationalist theology in American churches, shifting Christian loyalty toward the modern state of Israel. The USS Liberty incident in 1967 remains one of the most covered-up attacks on U.S. servicemen — by an ally.

❓ FAQ

What is dispensationalism and why does it matter? It’s a theological framework that divides history into stages or "dispensations," promoting the idea that Jews remain God’s chosen people in a separate covenant — a view that fuels Christian Zionism.

Are evangelical pastors knowingly deceiving their congregations? Most are sincere but misinformed. A few know the deeper truths and choose silence to preserve status, funding, or influence.

Why is questioning Israel equated with anti-Semitism? Zionist lobbying, political fear, and theological indoctrination have made Israel a sacred cow in both politics and religion. Questioning it often triggers emotional — not logical — responses.

What changed after October 7th? The event — and its manipulative media aftermath — shattered illusions for many. It forced Christians to confront whether their loyalty lies with truth or tradition.

⏱️ Chapters & Timestamps

00:00 – Intro and Greg Stoker reference
02:03 – Evangelical support: Faith or funding?
04:20 – Do pastors really believe what they preach about Israel?
09:29 – What is dispensationalism?
13:48 – John the Baptist vs. Benjamin Netanyahu
17:10 – Two Christianities: Which covenant counts?
30:51 – October 7th: Green flag operation?
36:14 – 9/11: Who really benefited?
41:22 – Fear, funding & theological silence
44:25 – Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, and the boundaries of debate
47:52 – Nick Fuentes: Generational threat or truth-teller?
54:52 – Is it anti-Semitism — or is it true?
58:42 – The propaganda war reignites
1:03:03 – 9/11 Truth: Washington D.C. event & movement

🧭 Final Thought

If your faith can't withstand scrutiny, it’s not faith — it's fear. Truth doesn’t need protection, only the courage to speak it.

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